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  •  markkuk
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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joao2 wrote:

I still don't understand what's going on! Why do I download and install something that turns out not to have the required thing in its repository.
[root@server1 ~]# yum --noplugins --showduplicates --enablerepo epel repolist
epel/metalink                                                       | 9.9 kB     00:00
repo id              repo name                                                    status
base                 CentOS-6 - Base                                               6,211+83
epel                 Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 6 - x86_64               6,920+318
extras               CentOS-6 - Extras                                                    4
updates              CentOS-6 - Updates                                              756+74
repolist: 13,891
[root@server1 ~]# yum --noplugins --showduplicates --disablerepo \* --enablerepo epel list php\*
Error: No matching Packages to list
[root@server1 ~]# yum --noplugins --showduplicates --disablerepo \* --enablerepo epel list \*php
Available Packages
nntpgrab-php.x86_64                            0.7.1-1.el6                             epel
[root@server1 ~]# yum --noplugins --showduplicates --disablerepo \* --enablerepo epel\* list \*php\*
epel-debuginfo/metalink                                             | 8.8 kB     00:00
epel-debuginfo                                                      | 3.1 kB     00:00
epel-debuginfo/primary_db                                           | 443 kB     00:00
epel-source/metalink                                                | 9.2 kB     00:00
epel-source                                                         | 3.3 kB     00:00
epel-source/primary_db                                              | 1.1 MB     00:00
epel-testing/metalink                                               |  10 kB     00:00
epel-testing                                                        | 4.0 kB     00:00
epel-testing/primary_db                                             | 295 kB     00:00
epel-testing-debuginfo/metalink                                     | 9.3 kB     00:00
epel-testing-debuginfo                                              | 3.1 kB     00:00
epel-testing-debuginfo/primary_db                                   |  24 kB     00:00
epel-testing-source/metalink                                        | 9.3 kB     00:00
epel-testing-source                                                 | 3.3 kB     00:00
epel-testing-source/primary_db                                      |  66 kB     00:00
Available Packages
eclipse-phpeclipse.noarch                         1.2.1-6.el6                          epel
nntpgrab-php.x86_64                               0.7.1-1.el6                          epel


Let's get back to the basics. In #2 you were asked to provide the output from "./getinfo.sh package" but you haven't posted the results yet. Please download and run the script and post the results. It looks like you have excluded php and mysql from yum. Did you install this system by yourself?
Posted on: 2012/5/2 20:58
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  •  joao2
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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markkuk wrote:

Let's get back to the basics. In #2 you were asked to provide the output from "./getinfo.sh package" but you haven't posted the results yet. Please download and run the script and post the results. It looks like you have excluded php and mysql from yum. Did you install this system by yourself?


I still don't know how to run that script, and how to export that script out of linux onto the internet. I think I remember asking how to do it in this forum and in another, but we moved onto the other issues.

The guide says:
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cat - > getinfo.sh # Note: Ctrl-D is EOF

or right-click and do "Save Link As ..." to save it to a local directory.

Change the permissions to make it executable and run it:

chmod +x getinfo.sh
./getinfo.sh


I know how to wget the file from the net.

wget https://raw.github.com/elrepo/packages/master/getinfo/el6/getinfo.sh

''saving to âgetinfo.sh.2â''

whatever that means.

I don't know how to turn it into an executable. I believe it's something like this:

chmod +x getinfo.sh

But when I write it in command line, nothing seems to happen.

I'm not sure what the guide means by the ./getinfo.sh that goes after it. Does it mean I have to write that in command line after chmodding and pressing enter? If so, that also doesn't seem to do much. I also wouldn't know what the line wants to do, or which of the lines does the actual writing onto either the command line or the server. I would imagine that all it does is write it into the command line, and that I'd then write that into a file by doing cat - > getinfo.sh.

Is yum a set of tools thats inside the server, or a call to an exterior server? Whatever it is, this is an unmanaged dedicated server that was given to me a bit more empty than I was expecting, from a serverstadium reseller. We wanted to test better specs than on my somewhat managed server and up till now the result has been 4 days thrown down the drain.

Is it normal to set up a yum without any of the basics? It sounds absolutely insane to me. I remember last time I fiddled around with centos in my somewhat managed server, I was told having to wget packages was the least recommended thing, so the notion that now because I have a pathetically thin yum I have to go wgetting them all ires me.
Posted on: 2012/5/2 23:08
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  •  pschaff
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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joao2 wrote:
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I know how to wget the file from the net.

wget https://raw.github.com/elrepo/packages/master/getinfo/el6/getinfo.sh

''saving to âgetinfo.sh.2â''
whatever that means.

I suspect it means you have already downloaded it and wget is refusing to clobber the original. Try
ls -lF *getinfo*

Hopefully that will show something enlightening, such as multiple versions, and possibly some with smaller or zero size. This is for your use and information. Please do not show us the results unless they are confusing to you.

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chmod +x getinfo.sh

Yes.

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But when I write it in command line, nothing seems to happen.

Probably because you clobbered the original with an ill-advised cat command that zeroed out the contents after you downloaded it.

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I'm not sure what the guide means by the ./getinfo.sh that goes after it. Does it mean I have to write that in command line after chmodding and pressing enter? If so, that also doesn't seem to do much. I also wouldn't know what the line wants to do, or which of the lines does the actual writing onto either the command line or the server. I would imagine that all it does is write it into the command line, and that I'd then write that into a file by doing cat - > getinfo.sh.

You only need to cat to the file if using the copy/paste method. Please carefully reread the instructions. If you download the script to a file all you need to do is make it executable, and run it. You should then be able to transfer the output file to your Windows system and show it to us.

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Is yum a set of tools thats inside the server, or a call to an exterior server?

Yes.

In other words yum consists of tools that live on the server and those use external (or local) repositories containing packages and metadata about the packages.

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Whatever it is, this is an unmanaged dedicated server that was given to me a bit more empty than I was expecting, from a serverstadium reseller. We wanted to test better specs than on my somewhat managed server and up till now the result has been 4 days thrown down the drain.

Is it normal to set up a yum without any of the basics?

The default yum configuration certainly has the basics - the distro repositories - which contain all many people want or need. If you want to go outside that the onus is on you to know what you want/need and how to get and use it.

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It sounds absolutely insane to me. I remember last time I fiddled around with centos in my somewhat managed server, I was told having to wget packages was the least recommended thing, so the notion that now because I have a pathetically thin yum I have to go wgetting them all ires me.

The only things you need to wget are repo configs. Once the repos are properly configured then manually fetching packages is not good practice.

If you choose to use wget for other things such as the getinfo.sh script you should know what you are doing.

Frankly your problems are largely self-inflicted, and due to your lack of understanding of very basic enterprise Linux system administration and shell concepts.
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Posted on: 2012/5/2 23:37
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  •  joao2
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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pschaff wrote:
Quote:

joao2 wrote:
...
I know how to wget the file from the net.

wget https://raw.github.com/elrepo/packages/master/getinfo/el6/getinfo.sh

''saving to âgetinfo.sh.2â''
whatever that means.

I suspect it means you have already downloaded it and wget is refusing to clobber the original. Try
ls -lF *getinfo*

Hopefully that will show something enlightening, such as multiple versions, and possibly some with smaller or zero size. This is for your use and information. Please do not show us the results unless they are confusing to you.


They are confusing to me

I don't know what rwxr, oxr, or rw, or mean, hopefully that isn't important. There's a slight taste of what may be a zero size object in the first string, where it says 0 while the others say 4666, but it most possibly may not be a file at all as the star at the end of the string seems to indicate regexp. Then there's a possibility that I have two getinfo files sitting there, maybe three, but other than that, I'm not sure what it means. For instance, if by that you meant discovering the name of the specific files, that what happened is like when in windows you copy a file into a folder that has the same name on another file and get a number attached to the end, if that's what you mean, well chmod +x getinfo.sh.1 should appear to do something in command line but it doesn't.

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But when I write it in command line, nothing seems to happen.

Probably because you clobbered the original with an ill-advised cat command that zeroed out the contents after you downloaded it.

Quote:
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I'm not sure what the guide means by the ./getinfo.sh that goes after it. Does it mean I have to write that in command line after chmodding and pressing enter? If so, that also doesn't seem to do much. I also wouldn't know what the line wants to do, or which of the lines does the actual writing onto either the command line or the server. I would imagine that all it does is write it into the command line, and that I'd then write that into a file by doing cat - > getinfo.sh.

You only need to cat to the file if using the copy/paste method. Please carefully reread the instructions. If you download the script to a file all you need to do is make it executable, and run it. You should then be able to transfer the output file to your Windows system and show it to us.


The only thing that occurs to me that may be wrong is I'm getting the name of the file wrong, that that may be what clobbering does to a file. But then chmod +x getinfo.sh.1 should do something visible and it doesn't. Regardless, when we do a numbered sh.1, as in ./getinfo.sh.1, something does pop up. It claims a couple of things. First it issues a bunch of warnings, then it seems to save stuff to a file /tmp/basedata.ztpMUY

Here are the results.

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Is yum a set of tools thats inside the server, or a call to an exterior server?

Yes.

In other words yum consists of tools that live on the server and those use external (or local) repositories containing packages and metadata about the packages.


Quote:
Quote:

Is it normal to set up a yum without any of the basics?

The default yum configuration certainly has the basics - the distro repositories - which contain all many people want or need. If you want to go outside that the onus is on you to know what you want/need and how to get and use it.


I still don't know whether yum is internal or external. For example, it only consists of external calls to repositories that are outside the server. Then how come it's anything to do with yum the fact that php, phpmyadmin or mysql can't be found. Surely yum is something neutral with nothing to do with content, sort of like utorrent, then why am I being asked what kind of yum I installed and why things are missing from yum when surely the question should be why they're missing from the repositories?


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It sounds absolutely insane to me. I remember last time I fiddled around with centos in my somewhat managed server, I was told having to wget packages was the least recommended thing, so the notion that now because I have a pathetically thin yum I have to go wgetting them all ires me.

The only things you need to wget are repo configs. Once the repos are properly configured then manually fetching packages is not good practice.

If you choose to use wget for other things such as the getinfo.sh script you should know what you are doing.

Frankly your problems are largely self-inflicted, and due to your lack of understanding of very basic enterprise Linux system administration and shell concepts.


Hopefully I've extracted useful information in the pastebin, though to me I can't make head or tail of it. Right now it seems as if I've done a lookup on the server specs, that have little bearing on the state of yum or the state of the repos, but hopefully it's of help.

Over the course of this thread you've kindly helped me, but in my defense and my crusade against the infidelic- albeit better at running scripts and sites- Linux, the issues have veered from the fault being in the wrong priorities of the repositories, to rpmforge didn't have phpmyadmin, and then about half a dozen twists till this present haze. I'm not entirely sure that clumsily making double copies of the rpmforge and the getinfo.sh files are the fault behind why either yum or the repos, or both, can't see any basic packages, but can see lots of little rarer packages. As far as I have mustered here, the only configuration issue a repos might have is that it has an inadequate priority that leads any search for its packages to be obscured by other repositories that hide it. But hopefully I'm wrong. But if I'm not wrong Linux has finally entered a romantic poet phase where it minces words and doesn't mean what it says.
Posted on: 2012/5/3 0:44
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  •  YBellefeuille
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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Here are the results.


You've only posted the first screen-full. Complete results look like post no. 11 here.
Posted on: 2012/5/3 2:37
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  •  joao2
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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YBellefeuille wrote:
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Here are the results.


You've only posted the first screen-full. Complete results look like post no. 11 <a href="https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37060&forum=56">here</a>.


Oh ok, sorry didn't know, here's the full one i hope
Posted on: 2012/5/3 4:16
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  •  YBellefeuille
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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exclude=apache* httpd* mod_* mysql* MySQL* da_* *ftp* exim* sendmail* php* bind-chroot*


That's screwy for a start. Where did that come from? Using an editor, please remove that line from the file /etc/yum.conf.

Oh, an editor; um, yes. Perhaps I can suggest nano; I think it's installed by default.
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  •  joao2
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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YBellefeuille wrote:
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exclude=apache* httpd* mod_* mysql* MySQL* da_* *ftp* exim* sendmail* php* bind-chroot*


That's screwy for a start. Where did that come from? Using an editor, please remove that line from the file /etc/yum.conf.

Oh, an editor; um, yes. Perhaps I can suggest nano; I think it's installed by default.


Wow. thanks!

It's either a gremlin or a marketing ploy to get management billing!

Anyway, it can now see phpmyadmin, which I went to install because I'm guessing it'll be more compatible with the DirectAdmin, as there's a link that says phpMyAdmin in it... I know, noobish but way back when I was a young frolicking virgin I remember entering phpmyadmin without a worry in sight... (maybe I'll experiment with mysql later on)

So I installed it but out of the 40 mb it claimed to consist of, by the time it reached 11 mb of the download, it spent the rest of the time talking about conflicts with the mysql server in an error summary.

An attempt to install mysql (via yum install mysql, not case sensitive, and perhaps not compatible with phpmyadmin) was even worse because putty claimed mysql conflicts with MySQL-server.. Does this mean I already have it installed, I dunno.

But the real problem right now is, when in DirectAdmin I click on phpMyAdmin, it asked me for a username and a password I don't seem to have. That's the first time. From thereon after, I get the following message when I enter phpmyadmin:
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phpMyAdmin - Error

#2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
The server isn't responding (or the local socket to the mysql server isn't configured correctly).


Could the user and password be sitting there, do I need some sort of addon? Something left to configure on CentOS?

Here are most of the events

(my yum install php was also strewn with errors, if its any indication)
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  •  markkuk
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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joao2 wrote:

An attempt to install mysql (via yum install mysql, not case sensitive, and perhaps not compatible with phpmyadmin) was even worse because putty claimed mysql conflicts with MySQL-server.. Does this mean I already have it installed, I dunno.

Package names are case sensitive! MySQL and mysql are two different and incompatible packages. You must remove the non-CentOS "MySQL*" packages in order to use the mysql pacakges from CentOS repositories.
Posted on: 2012/5/3 10:00
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  •  joao2
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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Is this all just pointless?

Does DirectAdmin contain all the features I was trying to install from yum, features like phpmyadmin, apache, php or ftp?

Was that the reason its installation was blocked on yum?

Google does not clarify this...
Posted on: 2012/5/3 17:40
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  •  pschaff
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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joao2 wrote:
Is this all just pointless?

Hopefully it has at the very least been a learning experience.

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Does DirectAdmin contain all the features I was trying to install from yum, features like phpmyadmin, apache, php or ftp?

Never having used it, I have no idea about that. Based on the excludes below it would appear that the installed system had at least some of those.

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Was that the reason its installation was blocked on yum?

The articles in the recommended reading should have educated you on the use of yum sufficiently to understand the effect of the line:
 exclude=apache* httpd* mod_* mysql* MySQL* da_* *ftp* exim* sendmail* php* bind-chroot*
in /etc/yum.conf.

If you want to use the system as originally configured with those implied replacements for core packages, then starting down this road was indeed folly, and you should try to use the system as it was delivered to you. If it is too messed up from attempts to get around those changes, then a reinstall of the provider's image may be required.

If you want pure CentOS then a fresh install from distribution media would be the only sure way to get a clean start.

A lot of this pain could have been avoided by providing more information about your system much earlier in the process.
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Posted on: 2012/5/4 11:25
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  •  joao2
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Re: RPMForge downloaded on CentOS, but still no phpmyadmin
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pschaff wrote:
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joao2 wrote:
Is this all just pointless?

Hopefully it has at the very least been a learning experience.


Yes, well kind of. Thanks to all who kindly answered. But evidently it was a week of money lost for me, predicated on as you say I didn't give the hardware specs, well to be accurate didn't know how to, and on my misinterpretation of the server that had been provisioned to me, thinking it absolutely naked when evidently DA has all I want actually.

But I'm now more confident with linux for any hypothetical case in the future and will probably use the commands in this thread as examples of what works.
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