centos stream 9 snapshots are not archived in vault?

[element82]

I am using CentOS-Stream-9-20231023.1-x86_64-dvd1.iso for some kernel development. The kernel version: 5.14.0-402.el9.x86_64. I was thinking to point people to that timestamp and just download the iso. It looks like that timestamp snapshot is taken down. Are they not archived somewhere? From what I can see, it looks like only the latest snapshot is available and the old ones are deleted. Is that true?

thanks
Pb

[TrevorH]

Not that I know of. Stream is effectively a rolling beta of what may or may not end up in the next RHEL point release. It moves quickly and many packages are replaced due to bugs or errors within days. It's not fit for production use and as far as I know there is no archive of what has been released for it.

[element82]

Thanks. THat is pretty much what I see as well. I was thinking it was supported like the old centos. Nope.

Pb

[TrevorH]

There are other RHEL rebuilds that sprang up after the demise of CentOS so look at Rocky or Alma. I used to include OEL in that list but I recently discoverd that it is not a one for one rebuild of RHEL and Oracle do their own sometimes incompatible things. ELRepo kmods do not work on OEL reliably for example.

[jlehtone]

ELRepo kmods do not work on OEL reliably for example.

Isn't kernel the package that Oracle particularly customizes? ("Security" something ...) No wonder then that kernel modules built for different kernel won't match. Then again, CentOS Stream kernels are no RHEL kernels either, so they are similarly incompatible with third party EL kernel modules.

for some kernel development

I'm slightly curious what that means. Isn't "kernel development" an upstream thing? The things that "evolve" in Red Hat's forks of kernel for RHEL are quite much "by Red Hat".

[TrevorH]

OEL ships two different kernels. There is kernel-uek which is their default and is not the same version number as RHEL (5.15 vs 5.14 at present) and then they also ship one that they _claim_ is the RHEL kernel and almost is. It's the almost-RHEL one that ought to be compatible with RHEL and is not.

[jlehtone]

... they also ship one that they _claim_ is the RHEL kernel and almost is. It's the almost-RHEL one that ought to be compatible with RHEL and is not.

Aww. That ain't cute. Oh well, ...